tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post8531824664519055374..comments2023-04-07T05:19:44.951-04:00Comments on Yes Vermont Yankee: Decommissioning, Governor Shumlin, and Dry Cask StorageMeredith Angwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02737538041807740424noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-54662692578909977722014-03-10T11:25:42.803-04:002014-03-10T11:25:42.803-04:00Rod,
I appreciate your comment, and I truly wish ...Rod,<br /><br />I appreciate your comment, and I truly wish I could do more to save the plant. I know Entergy tried to sell it. I also think that few businesses would make a decision to buy any business in Vermont, much less a nuclear plant in Vermont. <br /><br />Our senior Senators in D C are pretty good at getting military contracts into the state. Recently, Plasan plastics decided to move all of its non-military work out of state. Here's Roper's commentary on the steady loss of jobs around here.<br />http://ethanallen.org/commentary-vermont-needs-a-better-plan-for-job-creation/<br /><br />If the plant were in a different state, it could be saved.<br /><br />Meredith<br />Meredith Angwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02737538041807740424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-57770303726355291682014-03-08T12:04:22.211-05:002014-03-08T12:04:22.211-05:00I'm not well known for being polite or reticen...I'm not well known for being polite or reticent about suggesting that political leaders often have ulterior motives, or that those motives often involve protecting the interests of financial supporters rather than voters.<br /><br />Here's my guess - Shumlin and his advisors had a pretty good idea that closing Vermont Yankee would cause an easily identified group of people to lose their job and an easily identified community to lose a major portion of its tax base.<br /><br />They did not care because that same action would provide them a substantial boost in income by selling the power that would be needed to replace the power that Vermont Yankee was providing.<br /><br />It would also allow them to obtain special treatment in building additional generating capacity.<br /><br />By ignoring or feigning ignorance about the immediate job losses, the operatives were able to insert a lot of distractions that obscured their actual motives. They were able to make it appear that the issue was about "safety" or about the inability to trust an out of state company - while being much more willing to trust a foreign (Canadian) company.<br /><br />As I see it, there are two outs in the bottom of the ninth and the last batter is facing an 0-2 count. However, the plant is still generating power, still has NRC permission to continue operating for the next 19 years, and still has a well trained staff. <br /><br />If you live in Vermont, Massachusetts or New Hampshire, please take a look at the experience in the New England energy market in the past 4 months. Tell your elected officials that it would be plain nuts to continue with the current plan to encourage Entergy to shut down the plant and ask them to beg for a decision reversal.<br /><br />Rod Adams<br />Publisher, Atomic InsightsRod Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03652375336090790205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-33479540804097090392014-03-07T09:43:36.245-05:002014-03-07T09:43:36.245-05:00Look, people, its obvious what Scumlin and these o...Look, people, its obvious what Scumlin and these other rats were thinking. In their "minds", as soon as the operators shut down the plant, they'd go pick up jackhammers and start demolishing the place. They thought that engineers who were previously analyzing fuel cycles would be happy to pick up a sledgehammer and start knocking down walls. They had no clue as to what was involved. They are as dumb as a box of rocks. Why else would Scumlin say the stupid things he did?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-9755665747439822292014-03-04T19:02:10.855-05:002014-03-04T19:02:10.855-05:00Anon
I think you know how sorry I am about this. ...Anon<br /><br />I think you know how sorry I am about this. I am also deeply sorry that the government of Vermont and the institutions of Windham Country (such as the Windham Regional Commission) either tried to close the plant or were studiously “neutral” about the plant operation. The people at the plant deserved better from their state government and their neighbors. <br /><br />Howard<br /><br />Thank you for your support. Yes, there aren’t many decommed Mark 1 reactors in the database of decommissioned plants. Only one, as I recall, and it was less that 100 MW. I plan to look this up. <br /><br />Trag and Tom<br /><br />Yes. About the advisers. Both of your comments are pushing me to an area to which I would rather not go. I have consistently given Governor Shumlin the benefit of the doubt--”the poor guy didn’t know, the poor guy is learning.” <br /><br />There is, of course, another explanation. It is: “He knows. However, what he is saying is NOT what he knows to be true." In other words, he was lying. I am not going there, but I just want you both to know that I am not totally naive. I have certainly considered that as a possibility.<br /><br />Tom<br /><br />Your comment is thoughtful, but your chronology is off. It will take me another blog post to really answer this. <br /><br />For now, I note that you don't address why Shumlin claimed SAFSTOR wasn't part of the agreement and why he accused a reporter of "working for Entergy" when she differed with him. Was he confused or was he....?<br /><br />I plan to get a blog post up about this in a few days.Meredith Angwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02737538041807740424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-87081848540799655252014-03-04T07:50:22.540-05:002014-03-04T07:50:22.540-05:00Great post!
The comments show the strange world th...Great post!<br />The comments show the strange world this issue has become. <br />Estimates of how many people will be needed for decommissioning become solid some how.<br />Decommissioning technology is evolving. There is now one company just in the business at Zion plant.<br />How many GE MKI plants are in the decommissioning data base?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18376179233648053673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-74377702558110690562014-03-03T18:51:03.308-05:002014-03-03T18:51:03.308-05:00Well, it isn't providing any "employment ...Well, it isn't providing any "employment buffer" (whatever TF that is) for me. I'm still getting the boot at the end of the year. The only "buffer" I have is unemployment, DECON or SAFSTOR or whatever you want to call it. Thanks a lot, chumps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-26176138086391177292014-03-03T16:47:50.311-05:002014-03-03T16:47:50.311-05:00One of the reasons it may appear that Governor Shu...One of the reasons it may appear that Governor Shumlin is confused is that Entergy appears to be confused. In docket 7862 Entergy provided a graphic showing staffing levels for a shutdown in 2032, filed with the PSB as WRC-Cross-1. The DECON scenario shows staffing just for the DECON function starting at 250 in 2032 and then rising to more than 350 over the first year or two. When Entergy witness William Cloutier was asked how long it takes to move from 620 workers at a functioning plant to the 250 listed in WRC-Cross-1, he said it would be about nine to twelve months (see the transcript from the morning of February 12, 2013, page 109.) Thus the testimony provided by Entergy shows a move to DECON would take about 9 to 12 months, and would then result in staffing of about 250 rising to 350 for a few years, which is a boat-load different than a move to SAFSTOR which WRC-Cross-2 (also an Entergy graphic) shows would drop employment to fewer than 100 in about a year. If Entergy wanted to tell a story of low employment for five (or more) years after shutdown even with a DECON scenario, it could have done so, but the story they spun shows DECON offers a better employment buffer immediately, and lasting for five to ten years.Tom Buchanannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3033288879708780106.post-38661784551113409082014-03-03T15:07:53.156-05:002014-03-03T15:07:53.156-05:00I had a couple of thoughts.
First of all, I was...I had a couple of thoughts. <br /><br />First of all, I was quite excited when I saw the title to this entry at another site, without the comma. It read, in part, "Decommissioning Governor Shumlin..."<br /><br />Should have known it was too good to be true.<br /><br />"I want to say something though about his advisers. Where were they?"<br /><br />You're assuming his advisors are both well informed and want Shumlin to be. From what I've seen, it's entirely possible he has agenda-based advisors. They might not even have the facts. <br /><br />The anti-nuclear folks operate in an echo-chamber that never hears the pro-nuclear argument. Whereas the pro-nuclear population cannot avoid being familiar with the anti-nuclear playlist.<br /><br />But even if they were well-informed, informing Shumlin of those facts would not encourage him to follow the proper dogma. So, for example, if he hired his advisors from the UCS or GreenPeace, they might well have simply failed to mention inconvenient facts that might possibly change Shumlin's mind to something more reasonable with respect to nuclear electricity generation.traghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13567888742411686266noreply@blogger.com